Steam turbine example - Revision history

Grissess: /* What you will need to get started */ Forgot the generator :)

2018-08-06T16:46:55Z

‎What you will need to get started: Forgot the generator :)

Jrddunbr: /* Rheostat based turbine */

2018-04-01T17:39:00Z

‎Rheostat based turbine

Jrddunbr: /* Rheostat based turbine */

2018-04-01T17:36:07Z

‎Rheostat based turbine

Jrddunbr: /* Rheostat based turbine */

2018-04-01T17:35:40Z

‎Rheostat based turbine

Jrddunbr: /* Starting the generator */

2018-04-01T17:27:24Z

‎Starting the generator

Jrddunbr: /* Rheostat based turbine */

2018-04-01T17:26:19Z

‎Rheostat based turbine

Jrddunbr: /* More advanced turbine examples */

2018-04-01T17:22:56Z

‎More advanced turbine examples

Jrddunbr: /* Rheostat based turbine */

2018-04-01T17:19:16Z

‎Rheostat based turbine

Jrddunbr: /* Rheostat based turbine */

2018-04-01T17:15:26Z

‎Rheostat based turbine

Jrddunbr: /* Rheostat based turbine */

2018-04-01T17:09:02Z

‎Rheostat based turbine

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 * 1.2 buckets per second (or 80mB/t - Gold BuildCraft Fluid Pipe for example) of Steam - I tend to use Railcraft steam
 * 1x [[Steam_turbine|Steam Turbine]]
 * 1x [[Signal_trimmer|Signal Trimmer]]
 * 96+ [[Coal Dust]] - used to configure Rheostats resistance. (One can reduce this requirement a little bit by using more signal trimmers on the signal lines for the rheostats, it saves a few dust)

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 [[File:Resistive-generator-rheostats.png|800px]]
-Worth mentioning, in survival mode, this generator will require two 3x3x3 high pressure Railcraft steam boilers (either the solid or fluid type works about the same) to properly provide enough steam to run at full speed.
+Worth mentioning, in survival mode, this generator will require two 3x3x3 high pressure Railcraft steam boilers (either the solid or fluid type works about the same) to properly provide enough steam to run at full speed. You will need a very stable source of coal coke if you intend to use the solid fuel option, and automatic fuel feeding is a must (not to mention a water pipe for the boiler).
 If you want to save efficency of the design, you can reduce the amount of steam introduced into the steam turbine with a signal trimmer (but this will (obviously) affect the power output of the generation station).

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 On the right side of the image, we also have the steam turbine. In this scenario, I've made it in creative mode, and I've used a Railcraft Admin Steam Producer (which requires redstone signal to activate, thus the lever). I'm using Thermal Dynamics pipes to move the steam from the admin steam producer to the steam turbine (which works unrestricted for a single turbine).
 Worth mentioning, in survival mode, this generator will require two 3x3x3 high pressure Railcraft steam boilers (either the solid or fluid type works about the same) to properly provide enough steam to run at full speed.
 If you want to save efficency of the design, you can reduce the amount of steam introduced into the steam turbine with a signal trimmer (but this will (obviously) affect the power output of the generation station).
 A nice feature of this particular generation system is that it's rather modular, and extensible without much thought - just have 4 generators per turbine, and you can scale along the axle as far as you would like. While probably not as efficient with one, a flywheel can be used. This general frame design is also pretty workable to modify to work with PID, and it can be configured that the rheostats are only used in emergency situations when the system has been converted to PID.

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	On the right side of the image, we also have the steam turbine. In this scenario, I've made it in creative mode, and I've used a Railcraft Admin Steam Producer (which requires redstone signal to activate, thus the lever). I'm using Thermal Dynamics pipes to move the steam from the admin steam producer to the steam turbine (which works unrestricted for a single turbine).		On the right side of the image, we also have the steam turbine. In this scenario, I've made it in creative mode, and I've used a Railcraft Admin Steam Producer (which requires redstone signal to activate, thus the lever). I'm using Thermal Dynamics pipes to move the steam from the admin steam producer to the steam turbine (which works unrestricted for a single turbine).
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		+	Worth mentioning, in survival mode, this generator will require two 3x3x3 high pressure Railcraft steam boilers (either the solid or fluid type works about the same) to properly provide enough steam to run at full speed.
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		+	If you want to save efficency of the design, you can reduce the amount of steam introduced into the steam turbine with a signal trimmer (but this will (obviously) affect the power output of the generation station).

	[[File:Resistive-generator-rheostats.png\|800px]]		[[File:Resistive-generator-rheostats.png\|800px]]

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 == Starting the generator ==
-As soon as you apply steam, the shaft will begin to rotate. Be prepared for this. You will want all of the electrical work in place to regulate the voltage before you start - if your shaft goes over 1000 rad/s, it will explode. It also will increase in (what appears to be) speed in quadratic fashon after 200 rad/s..
+As soon as you apply steam, the shaft will begin to rotate. Be prepared for this. You will want all of the electrical work in place to regulate the voltage before you start - if your shaft goes over 1000 rad/s, it will explode. It also will increase in speed in (what appears to be) quadratic fashon after 200 rad/s..
 Also worth noting that if you have power on the DC/DC regulator, and you insert wires, it may explode. Be sure that you don't get the wrong voltage wires on the wrong side.

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 On the back side, we have the rheostats. They are configured to be at 900 ohms each, with 60 coal dust. Any coal dust in the ore dictionary will work if Eln has been configured to allow ore dictionary items.
 On the right side of the image, we also have the steam turbine. In this scenario, I've made it in creative mode, and I've used a Railcraft Admin Steam Producer (which requires redstone signal to activate, thus the lever). I'm using Thermal Dynamics pipes to move the steam from the admin steam producer to the steam turbine (which works unrestricted for a single turbine).
 [[File:Resistive-generator-rheostats.png|800px]]
 === PID based turbine ===

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 == More advanced turbine examples ==
-The above turbine is pretty simple, and can be greatly improved on. That design had a few problems with blowing up if you gave it too much steam, and so I never used that design.
+The above turbine is pretty simple, and can be greatly improved on. That design had a few problems with blowing up if you gave it too much steam and isn't very efficent, so I never really use that design longer than I have to.
 === Rheostat based turbine ===
-This turbine is one that I personally use a lot. It is not very efficient (it converts all unused energy to heat), however it hardly has any voltage fluxuation greater than a volt or two (important on very high voltage lines to prevent one generator from running another over long distances), and can be stably configured for virtually any voltage, and will mostly not be affected by how much load there is on the system, and particularly so when loads turn on and off without much warning, which can cause a PID system to have a large voltage fluctuation.
+This turbine is one that I personally use a lot. It is not very efficient at idle (it converts all unused energy to heat), however it hardly has any voltage fluxuation greater than a volt or two (important on very high voltage lines to prevent one generator from running another over long distances), and can be stably configured for virtually any voltage, and will mostly not be affected by how much load there is on the system, and particularly so when loads turn on and off without much warning, which can cause a PID system to have a large voltage fluctuation. This means that you can run this particular generator around 3900v and not hit 4000v (exploding voltage), and if you don't draw too much power, won't go over 1000rpm either.
-In the first image below, we have the generators. I have configured the vhv relays in the back to be normally closed (so that if a signal cable breaks it stops instead of blowing up; fail safely). The relays connect to the back of the signal wall where the rheostats are. On the left, we have a voltage based regulation system - if the voltage is over 3201v, it will set the signal line to 0v, and all of the rheostats will dump the power. If it goes below 3200v, the relays turn off and the generators can provide full power. In this way, it can have very tight power regulation properties, great for high voltage lines. It does introduce a bit of electrical noise into the lines when idling (which can be resolved with capacitors and other devices), and if you don't use diodes before the poles it will actually pull down the voltage on the grid when it can - this is undesirable since it's also how the shaft rotation speed is managed.
+In the first image below, we have the generators. I have configured the vhv relays in the back to be normally closed (so that if a signal cable breaks it stops instead of blowing up; thus a fail safely scenario). The relays connect to the back of the signal wall where the rheostats are. On the left, we have a voltage based regulation system - if the voltage is over 3201v, it will set the signal line to 0v, and all of the rheostats will dump the power. If it goes below 3200v, the relays turn off and the generators can provide full power. In this way, it can have very tight power regulation properties, great for high voltage lines. It does introduce a bit of electrical noise into the lines when idling (which can be resolved with capacitors and other devices), and if you don't use diodes before the poles it will actually pull down the voltage on the grid when it can - this is undesirable since it's also how the shaft rotation speed is managed.
 [[File:Resistive-generator.png|800px]]

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 This turbine is one that I personally use a lot. It is not very efficient, however it hardly has any ringing (important on very high voltage lines to prevent one generator from running another over long distances), and can be stably configured for virtually any voltage, and will mostly not be affected by how much load there is on the system.
-In the first image, we have the generators.
+In the first image below, we have the generators. I have configured the vhv relays in the back to be normally closed (so that if a signal cable breaks it stops instead of blowing up; fail safely). The relays connect to the back of the signal wall where the rheostats are. On the left, we have a voltage based regulation system - if the voltage is over 3201v, it will set the signal line to 0v, and all of the rheostats will dump the power. If it goes below 3200v, the relays turn off and the generators can provide full power. In this way, it can have very tight power regulation properties, great for high voltage lines. It does introduce a bit of electrical noise into the lines when idling, and if you don't use diodes before the poles it will actually pull down the voltage on the grid when it can - this is undesirable since it's also how the shaft rotation speed is managed.
 [[File:Resistive-generator.png|800px]]
 [[File:Resistive-generator-rheostats.png|800px]]